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'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby LAH » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:32 am

This must be one of the most stupidist issues to date


http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3248161 ... be-removed


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Biblical citations on weapon sights used by New Zealand troops in Afghanistan are "inappropriate" and will be removed, the Defence Force says.

Rifle sights used by Kiwi troops were supplied with references to Bible verses that appear in raised lettering at the end of the stock number.

Markings include "JN8:12", a reference to John 8:12: "When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, 'I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life'."

The Defence Force learnt of the citations when The Press contacted it yesterday.

Critics say the inscriptions on the Trijicon Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight, also used by the United States and British military, could be used as an enemy propaganda tool.

Defence Force spokesman Major Kristian Dunne said New Zealand, like other nations, had been caught "unaware" and was unhappy at the revelation.

"It's put us in an uncomfortable situation. We can see how they would cause offence. We are unhappy they didn't make us aware of it."

The Defence Force would talk with the US-based manufacturer and supplier to ensure future orders did not have the inscriptions, he said, and it would remove the letters from existing gunsights.

"They didn't violate any policy but we consider them inappropriate. Everyone has freedoms of religious belief ... It also could be used against us by other religions."

Dunne said the Defence Force had about 260 of the company's gunsights, which were first bought in 2004, and soldiers would continue using them.

"The sights were chosen because they are the best of their kind."

The citations were not on every weapon and were not "overly visible", Dunne said.

Defence Minister Wayne Mapp said the biblical codes were "undesirable" and could be "easily misconstrued".

"They send the wrong sort of message. They cause the same problems as putting slogans on bombs," he said. "We should not be doing anything that might give opponents any propaganda leverage."

The Government had not been aware of the citations, he said.
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby gian_strabo » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:49 am

Nah, dont scratch it off you might damage them! - just order some new ones without the enscriptions on - and send all those terrible 'undesirable' ACOG's to me! :lol:
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby CT » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:35 pm

If the defence force didnt figure out that it was a biblical reference when they brought them. What makes them think that iliterate terrorists who don't speak or write english is going to figure out hat it means?


Im not religious and I don't take offence and personally, anyone getting shot at by it has a lot more to take offence to than an inscription they can't read.


One word sums up this article. RETARDED.

When will people stop worrying about irrelevant matters such as this? Has any of the soldiers issued with the site complained that jesus is interfering with his scope? No so leave it be.
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby Dskd » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:01 pm

just looked at mine its a
acog 3.5 x 35 5:16 ?????????????/ no letters i feel riped off
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby mde » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:02 pm

Is the US also about to change their bank notes? Surely it can not be PC to use such a currency that has "IN GOD WE TRUST" in it?

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And on the coins (1 cent and dime)?

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Where does this stop?

If you look at an ACOG reticle there is "obviously" a christian cross. It can't be PC to target a non-christian with such a "christian" sight?

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Where will the PC idiocy stop?
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby Maoriboy » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:05 pm

Dskd wrote:just looked at mine its a
acog 3.5 x 35 5:16 ?????????????/ no letters i feel riped off

You had better write to Trijicon & complain bro... you have recv'd an incomplete product. I'd demand a refund & a replacement :lol:
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby Dskd » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:21 pm

as its a do not send out of the us model ill be happy with no letters :lol:
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby Caerlonie » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:56 pm

"We can see how they would cause offence",I suppose I should be surprised at such PC drivel but you know I am not any more,its what I would expect in the current age.What has our defence force come to.
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby heylin » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:13 pm

Mabey they could change the cross hairs and make them into a smiley face, everyone loves smiley faces, or how about kittens ?

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And mabey coat the ACOG housing in a nice pink rubberised coating.

Should keep the PC people happy and im sure the person on the receiving end of the M4 or Steyr Aug will appreciate it more.
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby honestbob » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:59 pm

"They didn't violate any policy but we consider them inappropriate. Everyone has freedoms of religious belief ... It also could be used against us by other religions."


How the hell can that happen? the only way i can see that happening is if "they" get there hands on it, the only way that can happen is if i've run out of rounds and it would probely be the least of my concerns.
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby JayDee » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:09 pm

NZ Government confirms: - NZ SAS are just a bunch of 'NewAge' guys who do not want to upset Muslim terrorists!

OR - has a massive wind-up been perpetrated over the Model designation of Trigicon sights?

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Rumor has it that removal of the Model designation numbers voids the warrenty!
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby NZPumpkin » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:14 pm

just checked and mine has jn8:12 on it, never noticed it before and if i had i think i would have figured it was something to do with model number or some such.
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby CT » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:18 pm

time for a new national athem I think. "god defend new zealand" holy mother of! im offended
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby Atomrally » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:04 pm

My Chinese knock off ACOG has references to Budda..... :wink:
I've done this a thousand times before and no-ones been hurt........much.
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Re: 'Undesirable' biblical references to be removed

Postby LAH » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:07 pm

does anyone know what the new non PC numbers actually really mean. Has Trijicon implemented a new part number type system, and it was sheer chance the numbers could be linked to the bible, and sheer chance someone with time on their hands thought to look it up.
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