Cable Bay Rifle Range

[STI]

Nelson Council having another crack at them,
Fresh-legal-bid-shocks-range-owner

[second shooter]

i feel bad for bruce, i shoot at golden downs and luckily the only neighbour is a shotgun club! the police are using our range now, i imagine its because they were having so much hassel with the cable bay range, i wonder if the 3 gun match this year is the cause of this latest attack on him?

[pox]

The 3 gun is mentioned in the article. I was on the rifle range at the 3 gun when the noise control/council pleb turned up with his bullsh*t complaint. If the Nelson Council doesn't want the several thousand dollars that we bought to the local economy, then we'll take it elsewhere. Shortsighted idiots

[colt45]

If this is a continuation of the previous complaint then it was from a couple of Johnny-come-lately poms who bought a neighboring property and winged about the noise.
Just like the half-witted jerks who complained about the speedway noise in Western Springs and the aircraft noise in Greenhythe, these selfish pricks need to just piss-off back to where they came from! I'd bet they are here because they were never happy where they came from anyway.

Simple rule: if the gun club was there first, you the newbie on the block don't have a leg to stand on, go buy somewhere else!

Yes it is, and damn right, piss off home, if you don't like noise then don't buy a property next to an established shooting facility, FFS.

And Bruce and all the shooters complied with all the rules during the 3 Gun nats, but now the neighbors and the council want to push the goal posts even further, basically they want rid of the ranges altogether.

[CT]

if the range is canned as a commercial business, he could then shoot guns when ever and how ever he wanted on his RURAL section so long as the nosie doesnt go higher than 75 decemibels at the source of complaint no? if this is the case pherhaps a few midnight shoots during the week(say every night for 2 months
) as a private gathering of friends is in order.

[V1coy68]

Unfortunatly although there may be literature produced by the council stating db levels etc , It will also have a clause in the councils by-laws that it is also upto the descresion of the Noise abatement officer as you will find there will only be one db reader in the district and it wont be issued to the security guard that is doing the councils nazi dirty work, it will be in the desk drawer of the council pleb who wanks over excessive noise notices. The guard/noise abatement officer has to hear the source of the noise when he arrives on scene and if withen 72hours of the first notice being served(verbal or writen) the noise is complained about again, And if he again hears it when he arrives then he is legally permited, With the police present, to seize any item on the property that is causing the noise. It will then take around $350 to get your noise maker back. If you did this in the Kapiti coast district council area you can also be fined $500 on the spot!! I did this job(tacked onto a different job i was doing at the time) for 3 years and it almost killed me!! I hated the job and everything to do with it. And to tell you the truth, Out of probably 50 stereos i seized, 2 of them would have been because of what i deemed excessive noise and the other 48 would have been because i was spat on or abused or told i was going to be stabbed, or any other things on a list the length of SH1!!! Legally you are not alowed to make any noise on a sunday if it is a commercial operation. ie buiding/ construction, backyard mechanics and engineers etc and although i never encounted it (as kapiti is devoid of ranges) i guess they count too? I also found that 95% of the complaints were not because of excess noise but because the neighbors had other probs but they found calling noise control was a vent for them to piss the other neighbor off. The money spent on noise control is INSANE!!! especially when the council already has their own staff to deal with it but they insist on hiring security to do their dirty work as they know how dangerous it is. We had one woman who made that many complaints (even calling to say she will call later to complain) that it cost the kapiti council over $100 000 in 3 years in after hours calls(that the company i worked for also did for the council and made a cut for every call they took ) and also made $50 everytime we drove past the place to hear no noise at all!! Then theres the fact that you could make annonomous calls too and up till the time that the firm i worked for lost the contract for the after hours calls to a call center in Palmy, My boss on a quiet month would add another 100 or 200 "anon" calls to the list for the council to pay!! I kow this is long winded but it might just show you how corrupt the noise control situation is in this country? Thank god i left that job !!!

[possumtrapper]

ill bet that even if every firearm used on the range was suppressed they'd still complian that its making too much noise.

if those neibours are reading this put a for sale sign out the front theres bound to be some one with firearms who think that living next to a range is the best thing in the world myself included

[V1coy68]

Exactly!! And once the council have a cry about the range , an iceberg has abetter chance of survival in hell !! I also used to get directives from council to seize without notice!! Meaning not to even serve first notice , just arrive with police and take it. The police most times wouldnt want anything to do with it after i told them what the council had asked thank god!! Also used to get directives to pay "special attention" to certain areas that councilors lived and to do patrols of these areas listening for noise without even getting complaints for the area!!! Or when the ops manager of my firm had a baby with the bosses daughter so we were all told that we had to serve any noises in the area so the baby could sleep!!!! Corrupt?? no.......... So after all my ranting i guess im just saying..... dont blame the poor under paid guard that attends. MAybe even ask him if he would like a shot of something....... Hearts and minds goes along way in a corrupt system.....

[gian_strabo]

Its typical isn't it. Move into an established area that has a very long history of a shooting complex and then complain that the shooting complex is too loud! Same as the aforementioned Speedway debacle, oh people pleeeeeasse!! Get a reality check ffs.

Its just pathetic, that the RMA does not take into account an established business, landmark or practice. If you get a property in an area - it is your due-dilligence to do some homework on what is in the area etc. If you dont, you shouldn't be allowed to complain. It really is rediculous.

[N320]

if the range is canned as a commercial business, he could then shoot guns when ever and how ever he wanted on his RURAL section so long as the nosie doesnt go higher than 75 decemibels at the source of complaint no? if this is the case pherhaps a few midnight shoots during the week(say every night for 2 months
) as a private gathering of friends is in order.

That is devious. I like the way you think! You would have to do it at different times every night so that the whiners never get any good sleep patterns going.

I am really sorry to hear this has come up again. I thought Bruce had the situation under control after the last council shit fight. Just goes to show that there is no true rule of law when dealing with bureaucrats. Wasn't one of nationals policies, if elected, to make the RMA more consistent and less nazi like?

As I understand it the newcomers are from europe where nany stateism has been running amok for years. Like the burka wearers, if you want that shit, GO BACK!

[JayDee]

Fight back by using the RMA - object to every thing that the objectors try to do. Carefully research any RMA consents that they have on their 'lifestyle' blocks and vehermently object to the slightest infraction. If their dog barks - object. If their chimney smokes - object. If any thing they build or have built contarvense their Resource Consents - object. If their sewage system pollutes the nearest stream - object.

Get as many older neighbours in the area to support the efforts if you can ...let the complainers know that they are not welcome - within the Law.

[NZPumpkin]

what a crock of shit.

to be honest you would need to be rather brave to turn up to a rifle range and tell everyone to pack up and piss off becuase they were making to much noise, not something I would be doing.

[2cants]

This could be a way for some our our COLFO contributions to help - i.e. assist Bruce in his legal efforts.

Winning case law is always good.

United we stand!

[STI]

This could be a way for some our our COLFO contributions to help - i.e. assist Bruce in his legal efforts.

Winning case law is always good.

United we stand!

I think the roblem in a nut shell is Council have unlimited $$$ and basically just trying to make Bruce give up.

[TonyM]